Monday, July 27, 2009

Paleo check-in, Monday 27 July

Good morning! It was a busy weekend, and I didn't have a lot of time to check in. For those of you still holding strong 20-plus days in, I'm happy to hear that some of the original concepts are now starting to click. It's not a diet. It's not a challenge. It's a new way to think about food and your health. It's a new, better way to take good care of yourself. For some, that's starting to make a lot more sense a few weeks in.

For Jessica, and Robbie, who had a rough weekend and fell into old patterns of behavior... take a moment to think about what thought process led you there, and how you felt during your indulgences, and how you felt after. And then, once you've thought about it, BE DONE with it. The past is the past, and all that counts is what you do today. If your self-described poor choices didn't make you feel better, didn't make you feel healthier, then learn from that. The next time you are tempted to make those choices again, remember how the end result you hoped to get from those choices (satisfaction, comfort, enjoyment) never materialized. And then make a different, better choice, and find satisfaction, comfort and enjoyment elsewhere.

Start over. Welcome back.


Elizabeth said...

does anyone have a good recipe i can use pumpkin in? i was thinking about mixing it w/ some sunbutter but then what? I'm not that creative.
also, are we allowed to have yuca? I'm making baked plantain this week. Yummy- can’t wait.

vitamins- i currently take 1 fish oil, E&C, generic multi vitamin and 2 CLA's at bed time. what does everyone else take?

Davie said...

2 weeks in and feeling great

Didnt have a cheat this weekend after feeling like crap after last weekends.

Robbie said...

Elizaberth, there is a great pumpkin recipe I posted a while can search through the posts, or it's on my blog:

thanks for the welcome back Moxy Boss.

Tyler said...

Has anyone tried to make a pie crust with crushed almonds and some oil as the binding ingredient? Pumpkin pie sounds fantastic since I have been having ColdStone cravings all weekend!!My little baker's mind is hard at work and I'd love some input!

Elizabeth said...

@robbie- thanks buddy, ima check it out.
thought- using almond meal to coat zucchini and squash to cook in the pan w/ olive oil- think it would work? like use the almond meal as a sub for breadcrumbs?

Amy said...

@Tyler - I used to make a pie crust with almonds, dates, and oil when I was a raw vegan. It went something like this:

Combine in a blender-
1 cup almonds (or leftover pulp from almond milk)
2-4 dates
1 Tbsp olive oil
pinch of salt
Pulse until combined and uniformly chopped. Press into a pie plate.

I used to make "Raw Apple Pie" with my daughter. First make the crust as above, then blend 4 apples with a tsp of cinnamon for the filling. I suppose you could also add a date to the apples if you needed them sweeter, but it's probably not necessary.

Tyler said...

@Amy - Thank you, thank you! This sounds wonderful! I love to bake and have been craving it since starting Paleo. This will be a great fix!! I can't wait to try the apple pie! :)

Soulrich said...

:) I needed this Monday update. I am sitting in a convention center with 0% ability to pull out my food that I pre-packed. I went to pull out some nuts and my boss freaked out on me. Tomorrow I am wearing a suit with pockets so that I can "go to the bathroom" and bring my food with me!!! This is good for me though, just a little life tossed at me that I know I can handle!!
Oh and have not touched one of the cookies, candy, or popcorn sitting right in front of me. Thank God this is week three and not week one. :)
I did join that 87 days on facebook just to see all the different comments there to. Thanks for who ever mentioned that!!

Jimi said...

5 more days! The only thing I really miss is the occasional beer or scotch.

Tyler said...

Hey Melissa,

I just read your Crossfit Journal article "Zone Gone Bad" and it was great! I am doing the Paleo challenge (on day 13ish?) and am curious...I want the healthy, I want the strength and PR's, but I want the abs too! Can a girl have it all? Even if just long enough to take a photo, do the abs cone with all the hard work? I have been re-reading your blog from the start and it is so great! Thanks for sharing everything you've been through!

Serena said...

Elizabeth: I like to mix canned pumpkin puree with coconut oil and cinnamon. Tastes good to me, but this is coming from a girl who can eat pumpkin straight out of the can :-)

Mindy said...

@Elizabeth and Serena:

Serena, I'm right there with you!! I mix pumpkin puree with pumpkin pie spice, cinnamon, and sometimes I put in a little vanilla extract. I think adding coconut oil/coconut butter would give it an extra kick of deliciousness!!! Other additions could be coconut flakes, almond slices, nut butters, etc. yummmmm!!!!

Jessica said...

Thanks for that. I'm not sure how I just now put the pieces together that these poor choices do nothing to advance me towards my goals, but I'm glad I finally did. Your blog is awesome, I never miss a post! =)

Chelsea said...

Elizabeth -- I made the recipe from Robbie's website and really didn't like it (sorry Robbie!). However, I tried THIS recipe last night and even had my three year old niece passing up chocolate cake to eat it!

• 3 1/2 C pumpkin puree
• 1/2 C unsweetened applesauce
• 2 eggs
• 2 Tbsp ground almonds
• 1/2 tsp each of ginger, cloves, cinnamon, allspice, and nutmeg
• 1 C pecans

Combine all of the ingredients except the pecans in a bowl, mix well. Pour into a dish for baking pies. Cover with the pecans. Bake at 350 degrees for 45 minutes. Chill before serving.

Mindy said...

Today I feel bloated and tired... ugh =( last night I made "Son Of Grok's" Carrot Cake Caveman Cookies and maybe I ate too many? Hope this crappy feeling passes soon though, I can't afford to have another pitiful WOD like I did this morning. Overall though, all is good. cooked up a storm this weekend and had tons of fun!! Thanks for all the recipes everyone!!


Jake said...

Today is day 22. I'm still going strong and have no real desire to eat crap! This is totally unprecedented for me.

Unfortunately, I only PRed on Cindy by one measly pushup. And what's worse, the last time I did it was in December!! Bah! I guess I need to remind myself that even though paleo is awesome, it will not give you telekinesis or eye lasers. In other words, it won't do the work for you. *Sigh*

I'm really enjoying this new way of eating.

David X said...

Hey all. I haven't posted in a few days because I've been crazy busy at work and with some relatives visiting from out of town. I'm very happy to see all the progress people have made thus far.

This past weekend I broke my Paleo streak at 21 days. As I posted before I have bought into the Paleo way of life and while I "cheated" so to speak, I wasn't peer pressured or felt as if I had a break down, it was something I chose to do and made the conscious descion to eat what I ate. I didn't lose my shit and fly off the rails and binge on hookers and gummibears, I split a bacon cheeseburger and an ice cream with my wife and I felt good about it (although I felt like shit during the next 24 hours) and the next day I was back to Paleo. I had no guilt and I don't beat myself up, I just enjoyed it for the time being and now I'm ready to get back to work.

Day 1...

ontheroad said...

Alex here...

Day 22 tired but I think its due to a not enough sleep.

Had some turkey meat sauce tonight and some yummy roasted veggies.

Can i tell you how much i am loving roasted carrots?

I am in awe that I made it this far, but nothing can stop me now.
Someone asked me what does someone need to do this and without blinking i said intent and a strong support system.

Just intend to follow this one thing for 30 days and just do it.

Don't think about 5 days from now or 15 days just think about today and tomorrow will be easier I promise.

I happen to have a great support person in my life she reinforces good thoughts each day and reminds me what I have achieved each day.

Come on cave people we can do this, we are warriors!

Michael said...

Going strong, but losing muscle.

Can't wait to hear what we do after the 30 day period ends.

David X said...

After the initial 30 days are up, we do 30 more days and 30 more after that...

Melissa Byers said...

@Tyler: Thanks for the note. That article was really important to me. As for your question, can you have it all - the strength, the PRs AND the abs... yeah, you can. But unless you are genetically gifted, it takes time, and a ridiculous amount of attention to detail, and probably some back and forth before you get there. When I have a rockin' six pack, my lifts suffer. When my lifts are good, my abs aren't so rockin'. I bet if I really, really tried, I could get to that point where I had BOTH. I just don't want to spend that much time and energy on my flippin' diet. So... I'll take the lifts, and the strength, and be happy with less than perfect abs. You have to find your own balance.

@Michael: You should NOT be losing muscle. If you are losing muscle, that means you are not eating enough - probably not enough fat, specifically. Fat is muscle sparing. Eat. More.

And when this 30 days is up... my hope is that you have discovered a new, better way to eat, and this is no longer a "challenge" for you, but simply how you eat most of the time.

mie said...

David X, that's a very healthy attitude towards food/eating. but better luck to you on your second round of paleo! :)

melissa, this has definitely changed the way i think about food. i've been lurking on the crossfit nutrition board since 2006 and i thought "knew" about good healthy food, but actually doing this made the biggest difference!! i know i'm not done with the first 30 days yet, but it's no longer about lasting 30 days.

Chelsea said...

Just wanted to say - it's been great having a friend to do this with! You rock Mie! :)

Mindy said...


HOLY MOLY THANK YOU!!!! I just tried your broccoli recipe from the previous comment "section" and WOW!!! SOOO YUMMY!!! I didn't have tomatoes tho, but it is delicious!!! I highly recommend this recipe to everyone!! Thank you so much Amy!!!

I make f'rice frequently (mashed up cooked cauliflower) and I was just wondering if anyone has any good spices or anything they add to give it an exra kick?? I literally just steam the cauliflower and when it starts to fall apart, I drain it and mash it up!! Its yummy plain, but I wanna add something unique, I usually just add pepper. I think someone had posted awhile ago that they ate this like mashed potatoes, any suggestions for a gravy recipe or anything?? Thanks!

I love all the recipes yall have posted!! Thank you soo much!!! Yall saved me.. I was gettin bored wit my veggies but now its exciting again woo hoo!!!

Oh, what have I done? said...

This will totally be how I eat most of the time when the 30 days is up. I have tried this before, but this time it is really working! It must be my willingness to get totally ragged on by someone called Moxy Boss, and take it! Bam Bam Bam indeed. I eat plenty of fat, probably too much fruit for a hardcore paleo/zoner, lots of different protein sources. Basically I mix it up as much as possible. And still trying a new veggie almost every day! The BEST thing is I talk about it all the time with my kids, and my son picked up a Hawaiian Punch drink in the store, LOOKED AT THE INGREDIENT LIST, and said, "ewwwww". Awesome. Something is happenin' and I like it! Also, got a PR on Cindy by 1/12 rounds. However, like Jake said, I keep hoping for some amazing things to happen, like finally deadlifting 300, or running a 400 in 1:10. But I like the way I feel so its cool.

Chelsea - awesome recipe. I did a very similar one and it was gone in about 5 minutes!

Oh, what have I done? said...

Uh, that was 1.5 rounds:)

Amy said...

Don't look now, but Orange Coast CrossFit has 26 people signed up for a 60-day paleo/primal challenge!

Byers I think you started a revolution.

@Mindy - thanks for the kind words about my broccoli recipe!

Jumping Queen said...

I haven't commented for a few days, but I've been checking in each eay. Still going strong as I approach my 4th week. The first week or so absolutely seemed like time stood still. Now the weeks are flying by and I'm feeling great. I bought a much bigger lunch bag to accommodate all of the stuff I bring to work for breakfast/lunch!

I'm glad to see so many people sticking it out. I'm sorry to see that some people gave in to temptation. I can honestly say that I have not been tempted even once during this trial, even though I've been put in numerous situations with lots of yummylicious options!

I tried a new fruit this week that I love. Kiwi Gold. YUM. The skin is edible, there are no seeds and overall they are very pleasant. I tried them without the skin and though it was not bad, then I tried one with the skin and loved it. If you have the opportunity to buy some-BUY some. They are pricey at $1 each for the little buggers. They are not like traditional green kiwi where you buy them hard and they ripen. They should have a firm-y/soft squeeze when you buy them.

While I love following the Paleo lifestyle, I am boring myself. I need to get creative and start making new foods. I can only have the same, somewhat varied eggs for breakfast, and the same somewhat varied salad for lunch. I'm going to work on that. I have tried a few things and bought new things, but I really need to get creative and take the time to make some of the great looking recipes that people have posted.

I have taken the liberty of going through our daily blogs and copying and pasting all of the recommended recipes into one document. If anyone would like this document, I can email it to you. Just let me know.

For those re-starting, for those just joining, and for those still aboard, keep up the good work and stay strong!

Adam Kayce said...

Hey everyone - good to hear how folks are doing.

We made SoG's quiche this weekend, and it was great - I added a crust, though...

1.5 cups almond flour (I ground up almonds myself, for a "rougher" texture)
~4-5T coconut oil

Just mix it in the pie plate, and mash it all around until you have a flat crust.

10 eggs
1/2 can coconut milk
whatever fillings you want (we did turkey sausage, tomato, spinach, onion, and salt/pepper/basil - it coulda used more herbs, though)

Pour it in, bake at 375F for 20min or so, and then cover w/ foil (so the top doesn't get too browned) and bake another 10-15 minutes. Yum.

Otherwise, I'm on Day 22, I'm down two pounds (which is big for me), and still PR'ing (hit 175 on my front squat this morning). When the 30 days are up, I'll probably add a little cheat-dairy in from time to time (cheese on my Chipotle, cream in my homemade ice cream once a month), but other than that, I'm sold.

Kat said...

I'm seriously going to go through withdrawals when this 30 days is up!
Melissa this has changed EVERYTHING for me. From how I think about food to what I buy at the market to how I feel in general. wow!
I'm not going to stop this after 30 days. May enjoy a glass of wine on occasion but definitely off the grains and dairy.
I will miss the monday/friday updates though :(


Elizabeth said...

@jumping queen- i would love that list. i started doing the same but part of it is home and part is at work. thanks so much.

Paleo is a lifestyle change for me. why would i want to go back to feeling lazy, moody, cranky, no energy???? And like David X said- he felt like crap the 24 hours after eating the burger and ice cream- this is exactly how i feel so i don't even bother. sugar is like alcohol to me. i get a sugar hangover and totally not worth it.
Everyone have a fab day.
Moxy-Boss- someone mentioned getting shirts that say 'Moxy-Boss is my home girl- how much$$$ for the shirts i'm down :)

@MindyDoll- i can't find coconut butter :(

Melissa Byers said...

First... Angie, THANK YOU for compiling that recipe list! So you don't get a thousand requests, why don't you send it to me and I'll post it for download on the web site? I'm at moxbyers/gmail.

Second, I thought about making a CrossFit 603 Moxy-Boss t-shirt for myself, because I would totally sport that in a truly obnoxious fashion... but seriously? Would you really wear that?

Finally, this does NOT have to "end" after 30 days! We've got people just signing on now, so there is no reason why I can't keep up the nutritional theme on the blog for another month. Or two. It's my damn blog, I can write about whatever I want. So for those of you who have seen the light... hang around and help those just getting started.

Ellen said...

Mindy - try pureed leeks with mashed cauliflower!

I have been traveling and eating at restaurants, so I have unintentionally failed a few times. My cheeseless omelet was made with cheese and my lightly sauteed tilapia covered in cream, etc. I tried to scrape off the bad stuff, but I'm sure I ate some because I ended up with some headaches and serious mid day sleepiness.

Will be more careful.

Elizabeth said...

@Moxy-Boss- hells to the yeah i'll rock that shirt. I'll put my check in the mail on Friday. would prefer a tank tho. w/ a kettle bell or barbell --- sweeeeeet

have anyone seen these:

paleo kits?

Soulrich said...

For the mashed cauliflower I put in garlic cloves when I boil the brocoli for a little kick! :)

I am all in for the Moxy Boss T-shirt. :)

Melicious said...

Mindy, you gotta get crazy with the spices in your cauliflower, girl!

Here's a tasty sweet-spicy blend. It's delish on cauliflower, butternut squash, carrots... anything that's either kinda nutty or kinda sweet.

Moroccan Spice Blend
2 tsp ground cumin
1 tsp ground coriander
1/2 tsp chile powder
1/2 tsp sweet paprika
1/2 tsp ground cinnamon
1/4 tsp ground allspice
1/4 tsp ground ginger
1/8 tsp cayenne pepper
pinch ground cloves

Also good on cauliflower:
- curry powder + minced garlic
- lemon juice, oregano, cumin
- lime juice, chili powder, cumin
- olive oil and chopped chives

I also recommend Penzeys Spices. They have a bland called "Tsardust Memories" that's crazy-good, and Greek seasoning that instantly transports you to the Aegean. Here are my posts about Penzeys, so you can see my other recommendations:

MOXY-BOSS! Big, fat "YES" to wearing a Moxy-Boss shirt. Duh.

Jumping Queen said...

I like it! "I went Paleo with Moxy-Boss in '09 and there is no end in sight". Sounds good to me!

Moxy-Boss, give me a few days and I'll format the recipe document in a more readable format. I see that I have a few to add. Stay tuned...

bennie said...

Still going strong...

but worried for the weekend.

I'm going camping for the first time in my life at a rugby tournament from Friday morning until Monday afternoon.

Does anyone have any good ideas for clean eating without a BBQ on a campsite? Quick and clean, since I'll be on the field from 9am until 8pm.

Thanks guys!

Mindy said...

@Ellen, Soulrich, and Melicious-

Thank you sooo much for your help!!! Sincerely appreciated!! =)

I'm down for a shirt too!!!!!

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Jennifer said...

Elizabeth...I too eat the pumpkin straight from the can, so take my recipe with a grain of salt..but I'll also mix in an egg, cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves (or pumpkin pie spice) then bake it to make little custards. Yum!

I've been eating zone since starting Crossfit in March...slowly dropping wheat, then dairy, then potatoes,etc and moving toward paleo. Am only on day 5 of this strict paleo challenge and already feel better. Yesterday I thought I'd kill someone for an fricking bowl of cereal. You know what, I didn't have one and everyone survived. All's good! I know you guys are farther along in your journey - but I hope there's a handful of us to keep posting for a few more weeks! : -)

Boyd said...

5 Years ago I boxed up my best clothes that I was too fat for and wrote on the side "Boyd's Fat Box. Do not open until you are 180 lbs".
I opened the box today.
That is 24 lbs of fat gone. I work out 5 times a week and push it hard like a lot of you. I have been eating the best way I knew how for 4 months to lose that weight. I stalled at 185lbs for over a month until I started the challenge. In one week I dropped 5 lbs. How is that possible? ;-) I had lost the water weight already so this 5 lbs is something else.
Unfortunately when I opened my fat box the clothes were a little dated. Guess I'll have to buy some more :) However, there is one sweater that fits like a glove and looks good. I think I'll keep that one as a reminder of how far I have come.
You guys are great. Thanks for your support. I have 3 weeks or so left on the 30 day challenge but right now the only difficulty I am having is figuring out how to prepare and eat food like this with my family. Going back to eating things I know will hurt my body seems very wrong to me right now.

Greg said...

To Michael above -

You should not be losing muscle on Paleo at all. Even with .7 - 1g protein per lb bodyweight, you have enough protein to sustain musclemass. Paleo easily supplies this.

flaggal said...

@Elizabeth - I love those paleokits! Had my first one at the Regional Crossfit Games qualifier in Flagstaff and keep thinking I should order some to keep around. They are delicious!

Mindy said...


Is there a whole foods where you live? I found it in the raw foods area, its made by Artisan. I might be able to ship it to you if you can't find it!! Shoot me an email girly!

Jessica said...

@ Elizabeth: I hadn't heard of Paleo kits, and it's a bit of a silly name, but browsing the website tells me it benefits a good cause.

I don't think there's any reason someone couldn't do the exact same thing themselves, but anybody trying to "save a city, one kid at a time" probably deserves a little bit of a donation, as far as I'm concerned! =)

Samantha said...

I trained over @ CF Tribe with Steve Liberati, great kids and great what Steve and the Tribe has done for them. Any support you can give them it would be greatly appreciated. And as a paleo-kit maker, I recommend them! They're delicious!!

Does anyone have a recipe for coconut-chicken curry? (coconut milk n' all.)

Jennifer said...

@Mindy: I also add crushed garlic when I steam the well as tumeric, fenugreek, hot chile powder, paprika, and crushed red pepper. I'll also add in tons of spinach and my meat and mix all together for a healthy Indian feast without all the ghee! The hot indian curry powders are great also!

@ Jumping Queen: believe it or not, the skins of all kiwis are edible. I've eaten them whole my entire life. So do my kids and all my friends, now! : -) Try's not itchy/fuzzy/prickly/any other kiwi-centric word here, like you'd think! and then you don't have to pay $1 a kiwi~

Chelsea said...

Accidentaly posted this on an old blogpost...sorry!

Has anyone else tried grass-fed beef products and found them...chewier? I can't imagine it's directly related to eating grass, because all the venison/moose meat I've ever eaten has been quite tender. But those were all killed in the fall...and I've heard that meat is seasonal just like fruits and veggies?

Tyler said...

I have a beef roast to make for dinner and have never made one before!! Anyone have a recipe? I have a crockpot.

Jennifer said...


Searing the roast in some olive oil will add tons of flavor, but isn't mandatory. To sear, heat up pan HOT, add a bit of oil, then put in roast. DON'T move for a couple minutes until nice and brown, then flip to next side, repeat until all sides seared.

Throw meat in crock pot. Add chopped onions, tomatoes, mushrooms, carrots, eggplants...whatever paleo friend veggies you have lying around. Then mix about a cup of water, a crapload of crushed garlic, a generous dollop of dijon, or other mustard, and whatever spices float your boat (I'm a spice whore, so I'd probably throw in chili powder, cumin, crushed red pepper, and paprika).

Cook low for 8-10 hours or high for 6-8.

Tyler said...

@Jennifer - Thank you!! I will definitely attempt the searing first, I am more of a baker! The stove terrifies me! :)

Michael said...

@David X Yeah, right. After this 30 day period ends, I'm having a big bowl of ice cream. Then I'm going to the movies and eat the family size popcorn. And then I'm having a Mexican fiesta and washing it down with a gallon of sangria.

The purpose of having good health is to use it. :)

And then I'm going on Melissa's 90%/Eating Dirty plan. Unless, of course, she tells me to do otherwise. :)

@ Melissa You might want to consider (1) creating an eBook out of some of this content and (2) creating a forum.

mie said...

I have a roast in my crock pot right now! i actually like cooking the meat without the liquid. i keep it simple. Trim fat. Dry rub the meat with sea salt, pepper, chili powder, cinnamon, and other favorite spices. turn on low for 7-9 hours, or high for about 4-5 hours.

Amy said...

I drank a bottle of sparkling mineral water in which I had dunked four fresh rasberries, today. It was tasty. I still want diet coke though, but the longing is starting to die out. Thank Goodness!

flaggal said...

@Chelsea - Richard at Free the Animal just did a post on grass-fed meat and how it's different:

Tyler said...

@mie - I didn't even know you could use a crock pot with no liquid! That sounds more my speed!! Thanks! :)

Chelsea said...

flaggal -- Richard seems to be having the OPPOSITE problem than what I'm having. My meat does take a little longer to cook than before, and is pink in the middle when it's done, but its very tough. I just don't get it. Unless they're slaughtering old cows??

David X said...

I hope you have a good colon because you are certainly going to put it to the test after this 30 days binging on all that crap.

Michael said...

@ David X I notice that you subscribe to OPT which is (obv) a big fan of body building type supplements. Do you take them?

Before this 30 day trial I certainly did with the main ones being protein powder, PWO drink, and creatine. If you take supps how do you reconcile doing this with paleo?

I'm fairly certain that I want to go back to these supps after the 30 day trial because they really, really help and I'm wondering what your take on doing this is.

Cheryl said...

I'm just ending day 5, so I hope some of you will stick around! Reading the early posts helps me so much. Yesterday I was the biggest witch on earth toward anyone who looked at me. I'm so ashamed. But then today I woke up w/o my alarm clock and felt great (I was nice all day to those who looked at me). In fact, instead of walking my dogs after dinner we RAN. Unbelievable. I'm sure there will be ups and downs with this but I haven't felt down to the point of cheating so that's a plus! After 30 days I do look forward to finding out what foods are bothering me the most.

Melicious said...

Yay, Cheryl!
We'll keep you company! Don't worry about that...

ontheroad said...

I will be cheering for you!

What day is this oh yeah 24 baby! WOOT WOOT.

Today i discussed what i will do after day 30 and i think i am going 90% Paleo with one cheat day a week.

I just finished "In defense of food" and just saw "Food Inc" (everyone must read and see both its important to see while you are doing this 30 day period)
and there really no other way to eat and I cannot see myself eating in my bad ways again.

Off to the gym I go.

Go Paleo

David X said...


I follow OPT's progamming to a tee, however I've responded better to a diet of whole foods rather than the chemical leden ones that can supplemented. When I was doing a more of a bodybuiling type of workout I used everything under the sun, however when I started CrossFit I jettisoned all the crap.

David X said...

BTW creatine exists naturally in the foods we eat so supplementing it seems to fit the paleo structure.

Carla said...

Awesome presentation... Please watch!

Also, if you haven't already read the book Good Calories, Bad Calories I highly recommend it! It will explain a lot of why the low carb lifestyle works!

Tracy said...

I'm in the process of moving in with friends so this will all get trickier for me, especially as one of them works for a dairy company. I’ve been thinking about what I will do once I'm done with the challenge. I don’t think I will go strict Paleo with 1 cheat day a week. I would just set myself up for failure I think. I’m guessing the more realistic is to allow cheat meals through the week. Like I’m allowed spicy tuna rolls one night a week. Another night I’m allowed a glass or two of wine. And somewhere through the week I’m allowed a dessert (chocolate, cheesecake).
The biggest concern I have is protein powder. I want protein powder in my shake for breakfast. It’s fast, convenient and I can get it down first thing in the morning before work. I also have a box and half of zone bars from before this that I do like to eat before and after my workouts.
So if I put protein powder/ zone bars back into my allowed list and 3 meals/ treats a week would I be a Paleo failure?

Chelsea said...

Tracy -- I too miss my zone bars :( Considering how difficult finding good jerky is, and my issues with making it myself, I'm debating whether to go back to them after the 30 days challenge. I'll have to inspect the ingredients list, I suppose, and may end up using them only in emergencies.

If tomorrow wasn't within the 30 day cutoff, I might consider it an emergency. I'm suppose to tour the inside of a Nuclear Power Plant and I don't think they are going to let me bring my own food (not in a wrapper) onto the premises. Normaly they provide lunch in their cafeteria. My plan right now is to a eat a bunch of food in the van before going in, and have more food waiting for me when I come out in case this 'cafeteria' is at the level I expect it to, sub-paleo-par.

Melicious said...

Beef jerky alternative:
Applegate Farms Joy Sticks

I found them at our local Vitamin Cottage store (

They're also available online from Applegate Farms ( and Celtic Sea Salt ( All the ingredient info is available at the Applegate Farms link; but they're cheaper from Celtic Sea Salt. Amazon also sells them, but are currently out of stock.

DELICIOUS! Garlicky, chewy in a good way like real meat. They're not overly smokey like some snack sticks... made from ingredients that sound like real food... totally portable.

Ingredients: Pork, Salt, Spices, Sugar, Paprika, Garlic, Lactic Acid Starter Culture (Not From Milk).

Melicious said...

Forgot the Vitamin Cottage link. There are stores in Colorado, New Mexico, Texas, and Utah. They also do internet sales and mail order. AWESOME prices.

Chelsea said...

Thanks lady! Hadn't seen those before!

Serena said...

Any opinions on date sugar (after the 30 days are up)? Is it a better alternative to regular sugar or just as bad?


Serena said...

Are starchy carbs (sweet potatoes/plantians) better than carbs from fruit? I need a way to get calories in w/o upping my fat limit and I think my protein intake is sufficient. My body for some reason does not react well to consumption of more than 45 fat grams/day.


Mindy said...

@Serena- I was just wondering if you could elaborate on your statement "my body for some reason does not react well to consumption of more than 45 fat grams/day."

I am trying to figure out if I am consuming too much fat or not enough and I've seen a lot of ppl write they are having digestive/GI issues, but noone has really gone into much detail. I know it is personal and can be awkward to talk about, so if it is too uncomfy, no worries, I'm asking Byers' for further detail below. If you or anyone is willing to explain when/how to know when ur eating too much fat, please post or my email is Thanks!!

@Melissa B: I recall you telling ppl who were saying they are having digestive/GI issues that it's due to too much fat, can you please elaborate? I guess does it cause constipation or the opposite? I've been feeling bloated and am wondering if its due to too much fat? Thank you!


**eva grapevine** said...


First, THANK YOU for hosting this challenge. I'd been struggling with full paleo since I started crossfit 7 months ago and simultaneously discovered that I was allergic to *everything.* (Wheat/Gluten, Soy, Dairy (Cow and Goat), Cane Sugar, Chicken egg whites, Turkey, Pecans, Beans, Cranberries, Lettuce (iceberg/romaine), and the list goes on). As a result, Paleo is the ONLY way I can eat. Forever. Not just 30 days. I've spent 6 months coming to terms with that, falling off the wagon, sabotaging myself, and repeating that cycle, until I saw and committed to the 30 day challenge. I'm on day 9 and going strong. I feel great and remarkably empowered it. The hold that sugar in the form of cookies and ice cream had on me is quickly loosening, and I'm grateful for that. So, thanks again for hosting the forum...the support of the other people in this challenge has been incredible.

Now to my question:

In two weeks I will be running a 20 mile mountain race (up, down, and over mountains)and lately, for my training runs, I've been using Clif Shots (because, with my allergies, I can have them) which work like a charm to pick my energy levels up and keep me going. Especially the one's with added espresso. The ingredients include the following, with the cocoa powder subbed out for whatever flavor the shot may be. Mocha Ingredients: Organic Brown Rice Syrup, Cocoa Powder, Natural Flavors, Sea Salt, Green Tea Extract (contains caffeine), Potassium Citrate, Magnesium Oxide.

SO, aside from the cocoa powder or whatever flavor may be involved, the Brown Rice Syrup also has me concerned. Though I love the energy pick my up they provide and the ease on my stomach to consume while running (nuts are too heavy), I am struggling with insulin resistance, and correcting it, and don't want to use these if they're sabotaging me.

Currently, I only use them during long training runs (several hours). I was going to use them on the race, once every hour or so, as needed,(my goal is to finish in 6 hours or less) and at the longer aid station stops supplement with half a Lara Bar when needed. My stomach can tolerate 1/2 a LaraBar at a time while running...sometimes.

Do you have any thoughts on this or suggestions of something else I should do/use during training and the race? Like I said, I don't want to be sabotaging my progress with the Paleo lifestyle, but I need to make sure I have all the ingredients to keep going through this day.

(As a side note, I've been struggling with energy issues due to the "chronic digestive back up" and the resulting damage inflicted on my body due to the lack of toxin elimination. I'm hoping Paleo will correct this and normalize the process, but in the meantime, caffeine is still essential for the race. I am working to eliminate it from daily life after the race...because I think it, too, is contributing to my problems.)

Thank you in advance for your thoughts!!

Serena said...

Hi Mindy,

If I eat more than 45 grams of fat/day I get softer and my weight loss stalls. if I don't eat enough fat my weight loss satlls and my bowel movements aren't as regular-TMI sorry.


Mindy said...

@Serena: Thank you so much! I know that was personal. I appreciate your help! =)

Beth said...


OMG I tried making the chicken recipe you'd had on your blog last night and It Was DELICIOUS. o_0

I didn't have all the spices you'd listed for a rub, so I used cumin, allspice, black pepper, and cinnamon and subbed some chipotle-chili spice and paprika for the curry and chili powder. Added a very tiny touch of garlic and onion and they were wonderful, and here's me, who doesn't even like anything remotely "hot". ^_^

I put the chicken breasts on baby spinach with sliced strawberries (PERFECT taste/texture/temperature to go with the chicken) and a bit of olive oil, and also sauteed some acorn squash. We had cantaloupe for dessert. :)

One comment/question for the recipe: When you gave instructions on how to brine the chicken, you said about a quart of water and 1/4 salt. 1/4 ____ of salt, though? Cup? Quart? :D
I guesstimated and it worked out fine, so no complaints. Thank you!!!

Mindy said...


oh yea, meant to write this too haha...I am no expert and I am sure Byers will address your question, but if you are trying to consume more calories, I would up your protein intake before uping carb intake. Just my two cents. =)


Melicious said...

Yay, Beth! Glad you liked it.

And thanks for catching that error in the recipe! It's a 1/4 cup salt. The original recipe also called for 2 tablespoons sugar, but I ommited that part in honor of our paleo party.

Serena said...

I'm actually ok with my calorie intake 1400-1600. But I'm concerned about my fruit intake. I eat 15 oz of Watermelon, 10 oz of cantaloupe, 5 oz of strawberries and 5 oz of blueberries. That's more than 2 pounds of fruit in one day! Should I be concerned about my fruit intake? My performance is hasn't suffered, since the challenge I've lost over 8 pounds.

Samad3 said...

@eva grapevine

When I trained for my first Ultra, the advice I received was to eat whatever you could keep down. The main point was to get calories "in". I quit using Shot Blocks, bars and Sharkies because they did not agree with my stomach. I substituted avocados and boiled potatoes (not sure of the official paleo-take on potatoes).

Melicious said...

I just got email from my amazing, party-Inuit friend in Alaska. She sent me 10 lbs. of vacuum-packed Coho salmon. I'm in heaven.

Who's coming to my house for dinner? ;-)

Melissa Byers said...

@Mindy: Here are my thoughts on "too much fat". First, for most of us, "too much" is, like, A LOT. I've been eating 120g a day every day for the last, um, year. Some days, I eat closer to 150g. And that's still never been "too much".

Two, if you ARE getting too much fat, your body will tell you - not by bloating, in my experience, but by how often you go to the bathroom. Things will be, um, moving. And after a week or two of too much fat, you'll start to feel "soft". That's what Dallas always tells me - eat more fat until you start getting soft. After two weeks of too much fat, I notice a little chub on my stomach. (And all my lifts go up by 5#, so...)

In my experience, bloating and digestive issues on Paleo are more frequently caused by too many of the wrong kinds of vegetables and/or fruit. Some veggies (especially raw) may be hard to tolerate. I know when I first went Paleo, I ate a ton of raw broccoli, and my stomach did NOT like that. I cut the broccoli in favor of raw peppers, sugar snap peas and broccoli slaw and things went right back to normal. So I'd experiment with your fruit and veggie intake and see if you can pinpoint the culprit(s) first, before jumping to the conclusion that you're eating too much fat.

@Eva: I agree with Samad - on a long race like that, where you're absolutely going to deplete all your glycogen stores and will need something to see you through, eat what you can tolerate. Clearly, there are some choices better than others, so do the best you can with what you've got.

And that's about all I can say about long-distance stuff, because I don't like to run more than 400 meters at a time.

Jimi said...

I was going to wait until the Friday post but I'm just too excited. 2 days before starting this challenge I did Diane (21-15-9 DL/HSPU) with 155lbs in 8:55. Today, 2 days before ending the challenge I did it in 7:02! That is a huge for me. I've been crossfitting for 2 years so that is no noob-improvement.

Mindy said...


THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! and I am soo with ya on the running LOL


David X said...

@Melissa. This is driving me, um, nuts, but I'm trying to find an article where I think Robb wolf said that 5oz of nuts a day inhibits weight loss. I generally count out my almonds but I've been binging on them by the handfuls and boy do I feel very bogged down and I have been fairly soft and I'm wondering if this could be a correlation. I know I'm eaching more than 5oz but way less than 120!

**eva grapevine** said...

@Mindy--I've been struggling with GI issues in the form of constipation. There I said it :-) Are you drinking enough water? If not, try chugging the water. I was drinking a solid 2-3 liters/day without much results. When I bumped to 3-4, I began to see some improvement, and now feel much more "regular." I'm only 9 days into the challenge, but I definitely feel better, and know right away when my water intake isn't there. Like I said, I aim for between 3-4 liters right now, which is a lot, and you'll have to pee a lot, but your body will adjust. Also celery is a great little snack for those of us that aren't as regular. It acts as a little broom and helps pull things through, again, provided that you're pouring water into your body. I'll keep you posted, though. I'm experimenting with it, because, like I said, constipation has been a life long struggle for me, and a large part of why I joined the challenge. :-)

nadia said...

I also like spinach and beets for staying regular, chinese medicine claims they have a "sliding" nature. Dunno if this is true, but it works for me!

Mindy said...

Thanks for your advice!!!!

warning: after eating beets you will notice some color changes when you go to the restroom... don't panic tho, it's normal!

bernie said...

I’m on Day 14. I’ve been totally clean, no cheating. As predicted, I think the shine is starting to wear of my new toy. I’m not seriously tempted to cheat, but I’ve been having… thoughts… about a vanilla latte. The two weeks have not been too hard for me, though, as I just follow the rule. No question of whether or not I’ll have a bite of my daughter’s English muffin.

I think the best thing about these two weeks have been the fact that the Paleo diet forces me to do way more planning and cooking than I’ve ever done. I’m really taking charge of my diet a lot more proactively, instead of just wandering to the kitchen to see what there is to eat in the fridge. Under the “wander to the kitchen” methodology, I’d likely end up eating a bowl of cottage cheese and fruit. Now, I’m likely to eat some leftover meat and roasted veggies. So, that’s a big change for me.

But… at two weeks, I don’t feel any different. I really think I’m eating enough. My weight and body fat are both inching up. I’m pretty sure I eat enough fat. On days that I enter my foods into fitday, around half my calories come from fat. I eat healthy fats like nuts, olive oil, and avocados. I think I eat enough protein. And for the last several days, I’ve really reigned in my use of fruit: no dates, no grapes, occasional apples, and lots of berries. I’m not sure what, if anything, I’m doing wrong. I’m sticking it out, reading all y’all’s glowing reports, and waiting for the surge of energy and goodness that many of you have reported.

And, for those of you nearing your 30 days, stick around and support those of us still working our way through. I read every comment to every post and I find them very helpful.

Finally, I made the Greek Scallops recipe from perfromancemenu:

They are To. Die. For. I made them for a dinner party. No one felt deprived to be eating this Paleo meal.

Melicious said...

Thanks for the pointer to the recipe, Bernie. I just bought some scallops the other day -- this will be perfect for me to try making them. I'm pretty sure I've never cooked scallops before.

**eva grapevine** said...

@samad--thank you for your advice. the clif shots aren't doing so great on my stomach, i'm finding, about 2 hours after i've had one. how do you prepare the potatoes/avocado, and then transport them for use during the race?
thanks again!